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Hey AddolorarsiPapa, I've got some people who are interested in contributing to that scholarship for a deserving girl. Like I told you at the meeting, we want to do it in your family's name. Will you be at the next meeting?
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Revision as of 11:43, 19 April 2008

The site

Upon Batman's emergence as a beacon of hope for Gotham citizens, Gotham authorities are equally adamant about his arrest due to his unlawful vigilante activities. Citizens for Batman is a group of people who regularly get together in support of Batman.


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DON'T LET CITY HALL ARREST BATMAN!

It’s like a bad dream. Gotham citizens are under attack. We’ve been attacked, robbed, knifed, assaulted, even murdered.

THEN BATMAN APPEARS

For the first time, we have hope. Batman proves we can fight back against the sociopaths, thugs, and scum that have ruled Gotham for too long.

And now, City Hall wants to arrest Batman!

FIGHT BACK, FIGHT FOR BATMAN

Batman has given us hope back. He’s given us back a sense of power over our own lives. He’s saved lives.

Now, Batman needs our help!

Don’t let Batman be arrested. Don’t let the politicians and the corrupt cops win. Don’t give in to crime and corruption.

Meeting times

Thursdays, 8pm

Gotham City Community Center #5

1310 Adams Street, Downtown (moved from Rossi’s Deli)


Sundays, 1PM

St. Swithun's Church

Contact

Email: join@citizensforbatman.org

Sending a message to the email address results in an autoreply response:

Dear Gotham Citizen,

Thanks for expressing your interest in joining Citizens for Batman. The easiest way you can join is by attending a meeting. Check the web site for meeting times. If you can't attend, you can always lobby City Hall to support Batman and stop any talk of his being arrested.

Looking forward to seeing you,

Brian Douglass

Founder and President, Citizens for Batman

April 1, 2008

A new update is added to the News section:

BATMAN does it again! He saves another innocent Gothamite from the clutches of evil! Citizens for Batman has invited his latest rescue, Ulyana Kasparkova, to the next meeting to share with us her incredible story! Don’t miss it!

Here’s what we know – Ulyana was walking down Fleeting Avenue last Thursday. Suddently, ski-masked thugs came out of nowhere and pulled out a pistol!

Then, Batman swooped in, with a classic lasso and hoist (a move he has employed at the docks, and using trees, at Harlow Park) . Batman roped the gunman and left him dangling from a light pole for police to pick up later!

Kasparkova has accepted our invite and will tell all! She also works as a dental technician and is expected to offer Citizens for Batman discounts on teeth cleaning! Way to go, Ulyana!!!!!

April 9, 2008

Four new updates are added to the News section:

King James Bible (Psalms 8:2), "Out of the mouths of babes and sucklings hast thou ordained strength because of thine enemies, that thou mightest still the enemy and the avenger." Whether young or old, black or white, rich or poor, the citizens of Gotham have placed our trust in Batman!
BATMAN BRINGS HOPE TO SKID ROW

Life is tough for the vagrants in the rat-infested streets of Q5; violence, drugs and ok. The area is one of the worst in the city, but that didn't scare Batman! "He swooped down from that buildin' ova' there!" said one guy that CFB talked to. "One minute, I'm getting' pushed around by a couple a' punk kids, and the next minute he's savin' my hide. What a guy!" Batman saves the day!

ALL ABOARD!

Spread the word: the Gotham Monorail is open for business. The city's daily commuters took to the underground subway system with a renewed sense of confidence last Wednesday. And Citizens For Batman know why – cuz of Batman! "I used to be scared to take public transportation," admitted Maxine Fleiner-Baer, a member of CFB since the beginning. "But, who needs to worry with a strapping hero like [Batman] watching over us?" Who needs to worry? I'll tell you who: anyone who crosses the strong arm of the law. And, no, I'm not talking about the crooked cops of this festering berg; I'm talking about Batman. Beware, evildoers, because the subway belongs to the citizens once again!

THE NEXT GENERATION OF BAT-FANS

11-year-old Francisco Gracia-Godinez won the citywide essay contest with his report entitled, "We Owe Our Life to Batman." The 500-word effort details how Frank and his family barely avoided a gruesome death at the hands of the Gambol crime syndicate recently. "He's the bravest man I've ever seen," little Franky said. "Even braver than my dad, the president and the whole army, too."

Forums

On April 9, 2008, the Citizens for Batman message board went online. Players cannot join the forums, but can read the threads. The forums spoof the Superhero Hype! message boards, a popular discussion place for the Dark Knight ARG. Many SHH members have found their usernames spoofed in these forums.

ADMIN

Poster: WWBD
Monday, April 7th, 2008 at 09:22

Welcome to the Citizens For Batman Forums! This is the place for discussing all things related to The Batman. This is a place for CFB vetted members only. Please don't direct just anybody to look at this site. Everyone on this site has attended at least a couple of meetings and has been approved personally by one of the committee guys after a face to face conversation.

Some rules: Don't spam. No trolls. No excessive language. Bad behavior may get you banned.

Poster: WWBD
Thursday, April 10th, 2008 at 09:22

Welcome to all the new people who asked to be admitted to the forum at the last meeting. Glad to have you here.

Poster: WWBD
Monday, April 14th, 2008 at 10:11

We've had some new people join. I'm really glad to see these forums growing. Two things

DO NOT DISCUSS SENSITIVE MATTERS ON THE FORUM. While only people who have been vetted can post, this is the internet, people. Some people in government are not so supportive of what we are doing.

And PLEASE BE RESPECTFUL OF EACH OTHER.

THE BAT CLUBHOUSE

Poster: SewerMutant
Monday, April 7th, 2008 at 09:46

Post about Batman sightings in the press, like The Gotham Times had that great photo of Batman a few weeks ago where he was at that festival with the crazy weird name and he's by the telephone pole. It's righteous.

Poster: Tadarida
Monday, April 7th, 2008 at 11:08

Can we post video?

Poster: Sidekick
Monday, April 7th, 2008 at 13:43

You've got VIDEO? POST IT!

Poster: Tadarida
Tuesday, April 8th, 2008 at 01:03

I don't have vidoe, I just want to know if people can post it to the forum.

Poster: Sidekick
Tuesday, April 8th, 2008 at 09:58

You r lame.

Poster: dark-witness
Tuesday, April 8th, 2008 at 10:39

it's a fair question someone will get it eventually

Poster: Ns 18
Tuesday, April 8th, 2008 at 10:52

Probably not.

Poster: dark-witness
Tuesday, April 8th, 2008 at 11:03

someone will have a cell phone and get video

Poster: Ns 18
Tuesday, April 8th, 2008 at 11:14

Batman works at night. He specializes in the element of surprise he shows up when a crime is going on when people are engaged in violence.

Poster: Amanita
Tuesday, April 8th, 2008 at 12:27

Ns18 people have gotten pictures of him and people got video of that guy that was beat up by the cops at night.

Poster: Ns 18
Tuesday, April 8th, 2008 at 12:29

Batman doesn't want anyone to see him. Just catch glimpses.

Poster: Scramble
Tuesday, April 8th, 2008 at 14:21

Amanita is right. It might take awhile, but the Times has gotten photos of Batman.

Poster: Amanita
Tuesday, April 8th, 2008 at 14:46

Tx Scramble.

Poster: SmokinJoe
Thursday, April 10th, 2008 at 07:11

It was great to meet so many of you guys at the meeting. I finally figured out how to get on this messenger board. I want to talk about Batman's tactics. It seems to me that he has basically two approaches to a crime scene. His favorite is from above, like the way he swung down to help that homeless guy who was being hassled. The other one involves his car, but he doesn't use that much because it basically eliminates the element of surprise.

Poster: dark-witness
Thursday, April 10th, 2008 at 11:21

he does like to come in from above have you noticed that sometimes he *drops in* and sometimes he uses a kind of lasso to immobilize someone from above and then *hoist* them. he either leaves them helpless and dangling or tied to something for the cops

Poster: Amanita
Thursday, April 10th, 2008 at 17:30

Something I don't understand and I was hoping someone here was a lawyer or something and could tell me. When the police get there, what do they arrest the bad guys for?

Poster: Ns18
Friday, April 11th, 2008 at 09:53

Whatever they did wrong.

Poster: Batfan73
Friday, April 11th, 2008 at 20:13

LOL!

Poster: Amanita
Saturday, April 12th, 2008 at 12:33

Say someone is trying to braek into a car, and Batman stops them. When the cops get there the guy is tied to a light pole or something. They don't know what he did. He's not going to say I'm trying to steal a car and Batman stopped me. He's just some guy tied to a light post.

Poster: Ns18
Saturday, April 12th, 2008 at 12:47

There would be implicating evidence. Marks on the car where the guy tried to break in.

Poster: Amanita
Saturday, April 12th, 2008 at 12:52

And the guy says it wasn't him. I mean, batman isn't a cop, so what does it mean when he catches someone?

Poster: Ns18
Saturday, April 12th, 2008 at 12:55

Why are you being such an idiot?

Poster: Scramble
Saturday, April 12th, 2008 at 02:18

She's not being an idiot, and you're being a jerk.

Poster: Ns18
Saturday, April 12th, 2008 at 02:29

It's a citizen's arrest.

Poster: Scramble
Saturday, April 12th, 2008 at 03:10

There's not really such thing as a citizen's arrest.

Poster: Ns18
Saturday, April 12th, 2008 at 03:14

from wikipedia: Each state permits citizen arrests if the commission of felony is witnessed by the arresting citizen, or when a citizen is asked to assist in the apprehension of a suspect by police.

Poster: Scramble
Saturday, April 12th, 2008 at 03:16

There's also a law on the books that a husband can't beat his wife with a stick thicker than his thumb, but that doesn't mean you should try using a thinner one because that's okay.

Poster: Ns18
Saturday, April 12th, 2008 at 03:17

Are you saying Batman doesn't get results?

Poster: Scramble
Saturday, April 12th, 2008 at 03:22

I'm just saying that it isn't a stupid question that Amanita asked, and your response was out of line.

Poster: Ns18
Saturday, April 12th, 2008 at 03:23

whatever

Poster: SewerMutant
Sunday, April 13th, 2008 at 20:33

Saw on the news last night that Batman stopped a crime just by showing up. Guys doing it saw him and just ran. That means that his appearance is enough to stop criminals. Cool!!!!

Poster: BigEd
Sunday, April 13th, 2008 at 20:36

Good to see you at the meeting. You said some good stuff. You should post more. A couple of us are going to get together at Sorrily's on Cook Avenue on Wednesday.

Poster: OscarD
Sunday, April 13th, 2008 at 20:51

Is that an open invitation BigEd?

Poster: BigEd
Sunday, April 13th, 2008 at 20:53

Open to like-minded people OscarD and you certainly qualify.

Poster: Amanita
Monday, April 14th, 2008 at 16:29

Scramble, PM me when you get on. It's important.

Poster: OscarD
Monday, April 14th, 2008 at 19:57

Amanita this isn't a personals site.

Poster: Amanita
Monday, April 14th, 2008 at 20:00

Sorry but you guys were talking about meeting each other and I needed to talk to Scramble.

Poster: BigEd
Monday, April 14th, 2008 at 20:16

Our meeting is business A.

Poster: LibertyLiz
Monday, April 14th, 2008 at 20:23

Playing army is business Ed?

Poster: OscarD
Monday, April 14th, 2008 at 20:25

Liz perhaps you failed to notice what the last meeting was about, since you spent most of it talking instead of paying attention.

Poster: LibertyLiz
Monday, April 14th, 2008 at 20:26

If you guys had anything real to say, I would. But since you're a bunch of middle-aged guys who think you're going to go out and be Batman, all I see is male posturing.

Poster: OscarD
Monday, April 14th, 2008 at 20:28

And all I see from you is critizing. Go head the t-shirt committee or something.

Poster: Scramble
Monday, April 14th, 2008 at 21:09

Leave the women alone, Oscar.

Poster: Clem
Monday, April 14th, 2008 at 21:10

Hey Scramble, maybe you should stay away from my wife.

Poster: schlockmeister
Tuesday, April 15th, 2008 at 00:37

Whoa. Isn't Scramble the dude with the shaved head? Whose Amanita? She isn't that mousy little thing that hands out copies of the previous meeting's minutes, is she?

I can't wait for the next meeting.

Poster: Batfan73
Tuesday, April 15th, 2008 at 00:37

LOL!

GARCETTI IS WRONG

Poster: Czar Lee
Monday, April 7th, 2008 at 17:58

Roger Garcetti sez that he thinks Batman is a vigilante. He says that Batman should be arrested. This makes me so mad. Batman is the best thing that has happened to this city.

Poster: Sidekick
Monday, April 7th, 2008 at 19:27

This city is ****messed up***** Anything good that happens gets *****messed up***** Politicians in this city are the worst. They're all crooked.

Poster: Tadarida
Tuesday, April 8th, 2008 at 02:14

I support Batman but Garcetti, as a representative of the established civil authority really has to take that position. Batman exists outside the established authority and is therefore a threat to it. Think about it, there are over four hundred citizens for every cop, so the system works only if 1. the police are the only ones to enforce order and 2. most of us follow the rules and the police only have to deal with a few people who deviate.

The alternative is a world where anyone who has a grudge takes care of it themselves. That means that a person who feels wronged deals directly with his neighbor, shoots them if they feel its necessary. You get feuds and lawlessness and a survival of the fittest. The strong dominate the weak. By taking the law into his own hands, Batman threatens the police monopoly on maintaining order and could be seen as taking the first step towards that kind of lawlessness.

The problem is that the police are not keeping their end of the civil contract. We give them power with the understanding that they will maintain order. But anyone who lives in Gotham can see that order and safety are breaking down. We are already in a state of lawlessness. Batman is responding to the increasing disorder. And so are we by joining Citizens For Batman.

Poster: OscarD
Tuesday, April 8th, 2008 at 08:36

So you are saying that Batman should be arrested? Why the hell did you join this group then? You should leave. You're not welcome here.

Poster: Tadarida
Tuesday, April 8th, 2008 at 19:22

If you read my post, you'll see that I say Garcetti has to call for Batman's arrest because he represents the civil organization. But the civil organization (that is, the city of Gotham) is failing in its contract with the citizens of the city.

Poster: OscarD
Tuesday, April 8th, 2008 at 21:02

I'm not a lawyer OR a politician and I don't have a PHD in gobblygook. Plain English.

Poster: dark-witness
Wednesday, April 9th, 2008 at 00:07

i think what tarida is saying is that garcetti has to want to arrest batman but we don't he doesn't want to arrest the b-dude

Poster: OscarD
Thursday, April 10th, 2008 at 01:33

Then why doesn't he say that?

Poster: buttercookies
Thursday, April 10th, 2008 at 10:06

people like Tarida use long words to compensate for there stupidity

Poster: WWBD
Thursday, April 10th, 2008 at 11:52

buttercookies, no insults. This is your first warning.

Poster: buttercookies
Friday, April 11th, 2008 at 09:37

Joke, WWBD.

BATMAN OR THE BATMAN

Poster: Thunder880
Monday, April 7th, 2008 at 19:41

Some people call him 'Batman' and some people call him 'The Batman.' Which is it?

Poster: Batfan73
Monday, April 7th, 2008 at 20:43

LOL!

Poster: IndigoGrrrl
Tuesday, April 8th, 2008 at 07:13

It's just Batman.

Poster: Thunder880
Tuesday, April 8th, 2008 at 09:08

How do you know? :)

Poster: IndigoGrrrl
Tuesday, April 8th, 2008 at 18:19

Because I wouldn't call you 'The Thunder880.' If you refer to him as 'The Batman' it's like the way you talk about a kind of thing, like you say, 'I gave it to the dog.' It's not like there are a whole bunch of Batmans. If we keep saying 'The Batman,' what would we call him if we met him face to face?

Poster: schlockmeister
Tuesday, April 8th, 2008 at 20:29

Sir

WHO IS BATMAN?

Poster: ZincBadger
Tuesday, April 8th, 2008 at 15:06

Who is Batman? Is he an athlete? He can do incredible stuff.

Poster: Batmand00d
Tuesday, April 8th, 2008 at 15:09

I don't think we should be asking who Batman is.

Poster: ZincBadger
Tuesday, April 8th, 2008 at 15:14

It's a fair question.

Poster: OdeToJoy
Tuesday, April 8th, 2008 at 21:54

Batmand00d is right, I think. Batman is better mysterious.

Poster: buttercookies
Tuesday, April 8th, 2008 at 23:01

I want to know what gym he goes to

Poster: Tadarida
Wednesday, April 9th, 2008 at 03:17

Batman is a symbol. If we don't know who he is, then his power is greater. We live in a world where what we buy and what we see shapes who we are. Research shows that in cultures where there are large social divisions-divisions in wealth and divisions in culture like different religions and languages-have much larger problems with crime than more homogeneous societies.

Batman exists in that chasm. He is no society and no culture. His choice of a costume makes him 'not us' since no culture or religion has ever dressed like him. His decision to take on animal aspects makes him even more mysterious and taps into very profound and mostly unconscious reactions from us, the same reactions that were evoked by the Shaman of Trois Freres, whose very human eyes look out at us from the mask of a stag. We are programmed to respond to Batman's us/not us status in powerful ways-with fear.

If you expose the man behind the mask, the power of the marginal status disappears and the man becomes just a guy in a weird suit.

Poster: batmand00d
Wednesday, April 9th, 2008 at 07:12

Yeah what he said

NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH

Poster: SmokinJoe
Thursday, April 10th, 2008 at 07:16

In the meeting, there was a lot of talk about forming neighborhood watch committees. I'm assuming everybody here is pretty clear on what this means. Let's talk about taking back our neighborhoods. We know the police are no help, let's talk about TAKING MATTERS INTO OUR OWN HANDS

Poster: ZincBadger
Thursday, April 10th, 2008 at 09:15

About time. Count me in.

Poster: BigEd
Friday, April 11th, 2008 at 11:22

There was some talk about a buddy system, but I think we should take our cue from Batman. He works alone.

Poster: OscarD
Friday, April 11th, 2008 at 11:37

I'm patrolling my neighborhood tonight.

Poster: LostnFound
Friday, April 11th, 2008 at 14:06

I think Larry's thing on the front page sums it up. The cops are corrupt, the judges don't care. I'm going on patrol tonight to.

Poster: WWBD
Friday, April 11th, 2008 at 16:57

No real names on the site LostnFound.

Poster: Sid_Bat
Saturday, April 12th, 2008 at 12:48

I think we should talk about buddy-ing up. I really respect Batman, but we aren't him. I don't know about your neighborhood but since I don't think I can jump off a roof top and clobber guys, I'd like someone out there who has my back.

Poster: BigEd
Saturday, April 12th, 2008 at 15:13

I'm not saying you can't have a buddy. But I'm just saying it makes it harder. You gotta find someone, someone you can trust. Me, I'd rather go it alone.

Poster: Sid_Bat
Saturday, April 12th, 2008 at 17:09

It's pretty much the same as scuba diving. You need someone if you get in trouble.

Poster: BigEd
Saturday, April 12th, 2008 at 20:31

Fine, you want a buddy, you should get a buddy.

Poster: Captain Satellite
Saturday, April 12th, 2008 at 20:48

We should leave the acrobatics to Batman. I've got two kids. I want things to get better in my neighborhood and I'm willing to do a real neighborhood watch, you know, with neighborhood guys on patrol and all that, but much as I admire Batman, I think the guy has a bit of a death wish, you know? And I don't.

Poster: ZincBadger
Saturday, April 12th, 2008 at 20:53

That sounds good, but the problem is, you're out there, patrolling your neighborhood, and you see something, if you call the cops they might come in a couple of hours. They might not come at all. The criminals know that. You've got to scare them yourself.

Poster: Tadarida
Saturday, April 12th, 2008 at 21:18

As I have pointed out before, there is a social contract between the city and its citizens. The police force is supposed to provide protection. But the police won't or can't keep their end of the bargain. The only recourse is for us to protect ourselves.

Poster: Sid_Bat
Saturday, April 12th, 2008 at 21:20

Batman has given us hope. Somebody had a big post about him as a symbol (I'm not going to go through threads to find it.) But I looked around the last meeting and saw a bunch of guys (and a couple of girls) who were just ordinary people. Batman has some sort of fancy stealth vehicle. I drive a ten year old Volvo that my wife's parents handed down to us. It's got a kid's car seat in the back. Taking matters into our own hands is going to be dangerous. I'm not sure I want to do that.

Poster: OscarD
Saturday, April 12th, 2008 at 21:24

Maybe you don't belong here..

Poster: Sid_Bat
Saturday, April 12th, 2008 at 22:03

If you're not even willing to talk about it, maybe I don't belong here.

Poster: OscarD
Sunday, April 13th, 2008 at 00:06

You said it, not me.

Poster: WWBD
Monday, April 14th, 2008 at 10:12

This thread is closed. See Admin thread.

I GOT A PICTURE!

Poster: Reddy-Steddy
Monday, April 14th, 2008 at 21:25

I was at 5th street when this went past!

Batcar.jpg

Poster: ZincBadger
Monday, April 14th, 2008 at 21:25

That is so cool.

Poster: dark-witness
Monday, April 14th, 2008 at 21:35

Sa-weeeeet!

Poster: Ns 18
Monday, April 14th, 2008 at 21:51

It's fake.

Poster: Sid_Bat
Monday, April 14th, 2008 at 21:59

What makes you say that?

Poster: Ns 18
Monday, April 14th, 2008 at 22:15

It could be anything. It looks like a garbage truck.

Poster: Sioux-man
Monday, April 14th, 2008 at 22:38

You can tell it's not fake. Look at the front!

Poster: Batmand00d
Monday, April 14th, 2008 at 23:25

Looks real to me.

Poster: buttercookies
Tuesday, April 15th, 2008 at 02:42

He's in the city!


THANK YOU

Poster: AddolorarsiPapa
Tuesday, April 15th, 2008 at 18:11

I just wanted to say thanks to everyone who made me feel so welcome at the last few meetings. The way things have been going on, I wasn't sure if there was anything good about this city. Now I know there's something good.

Poster: LibertyLiz
Tuesday, April 15th, 2008 at 14:43

Hey AddolorarsiPapa, I've got some people who are interested in contributing to that scholarship for a deserving girl. Like I told you at the meeting, we want to do it in your family's name. Will you be at the next meeting?

Poster: AddolorarsiPapa
Wednesday, April 16th, 2008 at 07:15

I will, LibertyLiz. Thank you.

Film connections

Minor spoilers:
The film includes a scene with Gotham citizens dressed as Batman acting as vigilantes, and the NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH thread indicates that Citizens for Batman's members will become these fake Batmen. The casting sides include two related scenes; one where Batman confronts one of the vigilantes and another where Brian Douglass, the group's leader, is being interrogated by an unkown individual about why he wants to be like Batman.